Keep Awake means not Screen Saver?

[th3Bastian]

Hi,

I've a problem with the app.
I thought Keep Awake and Screen Saver turned on means Screen Saver is allowed and device doesn't turn off.

But if I activate Keep Awake the Screen Saver doesn't turn on anymore.

Is this the correct behavior or is this a bug?

Sebastian

[jacklandrin]

Hi,
Thanks for your question!
Yes, the behavior is as expected, Keep Awake prevents Screen Saver, it's like you are playing a video, system won't be idle status, so no screen saver and sleep.

Jack

[th3Bastian]

Ah okay, got it.

Could this be a new feature, Keep Awake but allow Screen Saver. Actually I need another tool to get this working. Tool is Caffeinated.

It would be nice if Only Switch could do this for me.

Sebastian

[jacklandrin]

Your requirement isn't a big deal. You can make it by Evolution of OnlySwitch.
Please create a new Switch Evolution, and setup like this:

1. Turn on (Apple Script):

do shell script "sudo pmset -a displaysleep 0" with prompt "OnlySwitch" with administrator privileges 

2. Turn off(Apple Script):

do shell script "sudo pmset -a displaysleep 4" with prompt "OnlySwitch" with administrator privileges

You can change the value of sleep time, the unit is min. -a means for both battery and charge mode.

3. Check status(Shell):

[[ $(pmset -g | grep displaysleep) =~ 0 ]] && echo true || echo false

4. Output: true

The commands will ask your Mac password every time, if you feel it annoying, please add password "your Mac password" at the end of Turn on/off command. For example:

do shell script "sudo pmset -a displaysleep 0" with prompt "OnlySwitch" with administrator privileges password "xxxxx"

I'll add a helper to avoid the password problem in the future. I hope this solution can meet your demands. If it works on your side, I'll share it on Evolution Gallery.

[th3Bastian]

Thanks a lot for the answer and your information. Tests the scripts and it works. But I think I misunderstood Keep Awake. I meant Keep Awake prevents my Mac from hibernation. Pmset -g System-wide power settings: Currently in use: lidwake 1 lowpowermode 0 standbydelayhigh 86400 standbydelaylow 10800 standby 1 proximitywake 0 ttyskeepawake 1 hibernatemode 3 powernap 0 gpuswitch 2 hibernatefile /var/vm/sleepimage highstandbythreshold 50 displaysleep 10 womp 0 networkoversleep 0 sleep 1 (sleep prevented by Caffeinated) acwake 0 halfdim 1 tcpkeepalive 1 disksleep 10 That’s what Caffeinated sets. It sets sleep not to 0 but prevents from sleep. Sadly I don’t understand how to do this with pmset. I can set sleep 0 but I don’t know if this is the same. Sebastian

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Am 04.02.2024 um 21:06 schrieb jack ***@***.***>: Your requirement isn't a big deal. You can make it by Evolution of OnlySwitch. Please create a new Switch Evolution, and setup like this: Turn on (Apple Script): do shell script "sudo pmset -a displaysleep 0" with prompt "OnlySwitch" with administrator privileges Turn off(Apple Script): do shell script "sudo pmset -a displaysleep 4" with prompt "OnlySwitch" with administrator privileges You can change the value of sleep time, the unit is min. -a means for both battery and charge mode. Check status(Shell): [[ $(pmset -g | grep displaysleep) =~ 0 ]] && echo true || echo false Output: true The commands will ask your Mac password every time, if you feel it annoying, please add password "your Mac password" at the end of Turn on/off command. For example: do shell script "sudo pmset -a displaysleep 0" with prompt "OnlySwitch" with administrator privileges password "xxxxx" I'll add a helper to avoid the password problem in the future. I hope this solution can meet your demands. If it works on your side, I'll share it on Evolution Gallery. Screenshot.2024-02-04.at.20.52.49.png (view on web) <https://github.com/jacklandrin/OnlySwitch/assets/3782279/9474f192-b0fc-4607-bb1f-3af36b866413> — Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub <#120 (comment)>, or unsubscribe <https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/ARD3WJ4NOHU6ELUFIUW62G3YR7S3DAVCNFSM6AAAAABCX7ZKUOVHI2DSMVQWIX3LMV43SRDJONRXK43TNFXW4Q3PNVWWK3TUHM4DGNRSHAZTG>. You are receiving this because you authored the thread.

[jacklandrin]

The principle of Keep Awake in OnlySwitch is like playing video, preventing system enter idle. it doesn't change pmset.
I don't know how Caffeinated implement.
regarding the pmset, please also check this doc: https://www.dssw.co.uk/reference/pmset/

[th3Bastian]

Caffeinated uses caffeinate https://www.dssw.co.uk/reference/caffeinate/

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Am 05.02.2024 um 21:17 schrieb jack ***@***.***>: The principle of Keep Awake in OnlySwitch is like playing video, preventing system enter idle. it doesn't change pmset. I don't know how Caffeinated implement. regarding the pmset, please also check this doc: https://www.dssw.co.uk/reference/pmset/ — Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub <#120 (reply in thread)>, or unsubscribe <https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/ARD3WJY6WRYXGETUNJULAZTYSE44PAVCNFSM6AAAAABCX7ZKUOVHI2DSMVQWIX3LMV43SRDJONRXK43TNFXW4Q3PNVWWK3TUHM4DGNZUHEYDE>. You are receiving this because you authored the thread.

[jacklandrin]

I just tested caffeinate -d and caffeinate -I, both didn't enter screen saver 🤔 I think they should be different

[th3Bastian]

I think they use caffeinate -w <pid> tp prevent the Mac from sleep. With pmset -g I can check which process prevents the Mac from sleep. I tried this and my screen saver starts. Sebastian

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Am 05.02.2024 um 22:05 schrieb jack ***@***.***>: I just tested caffeinate -d and caffeinate -I, both didn't enter screen saver 🤔 I think they should be different — Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub <#120 (comment)>, or unsubscribe <https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/ARD3WJ6OVSMGBHZSTIPXRGTYSFCTJAVCNFSM6AAAAABCX7ZKUOVHI2DSMVQWIX3LMV43SRDJONRXK43TNFXW4Q3PNVWWK3TUHM4DGNZVGI4TI>. You are receiving this because you authored the thread.