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Node.js Foundation Technical Steering Committee (TSC) Meeting 2019-10-09 #764

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mhdawson opened this issue Oct 7, 2019 · 7 comments
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mhdawson commented Oct 7, 2019

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UTC Wed 09-Oct-2019 20:00 (08:00 PM):

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US / Mountain Wed 09-Oct-2019 14:00 (02:00 PM)
US / Central Wed 09-Oct-2019 15:00 (03:00 PM)
US / Eastern Wed 09-Oct-2019 16:00 (04:00 PM)
London Wed 09-Oct-2019 21:00 (09:00 PM)
Amsterdam Wed 09-Oct-2019 22:00 (10:00 PM)
Moscow Wed 09-Oct-2019 23:00 (11:00 PM)
Chennai Thu 10-Oct-2019 01:30 (01:30 AM)
Hangzhou Thu 10-Oct-2019 04:00 (04:00 AM)
Tokyo Thu 10-Oct-2019 05:00 (05:00 AM)
Sydney Thu 10-Oct-2019 07:00 (07:00 AM)

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Agenda

Extracted from tsc-agenda labelled issues and pull requests from the nodejs org prior to the meeting.

nodejs/node

  • build: ongoing list of actions for Python 3 compatibility #25789

nodejs/TSC

  • decharter website working group #761

nodejs/admin

  • Transfer jenkins CI tool tap2junit into Node.js org #413

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  • Christian Clauss @cclauss (guest participant)

Notes

The agenda comes from issues labelled with tsc-agenda across all of the repositories in the nodejs org. Please label any additional issues that should be on the agenda before the meeting starts.

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Zoom link: https://zoom.us/j/611357642
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Public participation

We stream our conference call straight to YouTube so anyone can listen to it live, it should start playing at https://www.youtube.com/c/nodejs+foundation/live when we turn it on. There's usually a short cat-herding time at the start of the meeting and then occasionally we have some quick private business to attend to before we can start recording & streaming. So be patient and it should show up.

Many of us will be on IRC in #node-dev on Freenode if you'd like to interact, we have a Q/A session scheduled at the end of the meeting if you'd like us to discuss anything in particular. @nodejs/collaborators in particular if there's anything you need from the TSC that's not worth putting on as a separate agenda item, this is a good place for that.


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Trott commented Oct 8, 2019

#761 (decharter website working group) has landed and can be removed from the agenda, although I suppose it can be left on for announcement/awareness purposes.

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nodejs/tap2junit#18 is in progress, and updates tap13.py to an Apache licensed version, just needs a bit of help, not sure it needs TSC discussion

python progress is basically that npm/cli#260 (comment) has landed on master, so we are now waiting for npm to get released and re-vendored. Should be in next couple days.

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python progress is basically that npm/cli#260 (comment) has landed on master, so we are now waiting for npm to get released and re-vendored. Should be in next couple days.

nodejs/node#29885

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mhdawson commented Oct 8, 2019

Given that the items on the agenda seem to have been handled in github and don't need discussion in a meeting this week I'm going to suggest we cancel again this week. @nodejs/tsc any objections or additional agenda items?

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rvagg commented Oct 9, 2019

python progress is basically that npm/cli#260 (comment) has landed on master, so we are now waiting for npm to get released and re-vendored. Should be in next couple days.

nodejs/node#29885

So it looks like npm opted to pick up our node-gyp@5.0.5 release rather than the node-gyp@6.0.0, which probably shouldn't be a surprise because it is technically breaking. See https://github.com/nodejs/node-gyp/blob/master/CHANGELOG.md#v600-2019-10-04 — the two main things that we did in v6 were (1) selecting Python 3 ahead of 2 where both are available (v5 does the reverse) and (2) properly drop support for the ancient Python 2.6 (which has untested support and it'd be amazing if there was much use of it anyway).

My guess is that they're opting to keep npm@6 on node-gyp@5, so that tells us we'll need to continue maintaining our new v5.x branch while npm@6 continues to live. That's not ideal but shouldn't be a big deal, we just have to remember to go through the motions of backporting and releasing.

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sam-github commented Oct 9, 2019

I don't pretend to read minds, but I'm pretty sure that they picked up 5.0.4 because @cclauss reached out to @issacs in PM over slack and asked him to do that specifically. He bumped to 5.0.5 because it got released a while later before the bump to 5.0.4 landed. I wouldn't interpret it as a long-term policy position.

Once we've got this support released in 13.x, and some suggestions that it is working for people, I don't anticipate difficulties in convincing them that bumping to node-gyp@6 in the npm@6 line is safe.

cc: npm/cli#260 (comment)

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mhdawson commented Oct 9, 2019

Seems to be consensus to cancel. Cancelling and removing from calendar.

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