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VersionPress status – 06/2020 #1481

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borekb opened this issue Jun 16, 2020 · 16 comments
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VersionPress status – 06/2020 #1481

borekb opened this issue Jun 16, 2020 · 16 comments

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@borekb
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borekb commented Jun 16, 2020

Summary:

As of 06/2020, VersionPress is not being actively developed. The last beta is from April 2019, doesn't properly support WordPress 5.x / Gutenberg and we, the original team, don't plan on releasing any new versions. We'd like to thank for all your support throughout the years!


We, the original team, are still together and working on WordPress-related products and beyond (we love building things with JavaScript/TypeScript, GraphQL and Kubernetes). We got VersionPress to a state where it was a great proof-of-concept and actually used by several companies for their internal workflows but to "finish it" would require several person-years of work and we simply don't have resources to do that.

That leaves VersionPress in a Developer Preview state and not recommended for production usage. We're leaving the repo, the docs site, the Gitter chat room etc. all up and running because even in its current state, VersionPress seem to be useful to people. But it is what it is – a developer preview without any active development around it. We hope this will change one day but there are no guarantees, of course.

Hope this clarifies the situation & thank you for understanding!

@roundrobinjp
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@borekb
Thanks. This explanation was a very much required one.
I saw a number of people around me trying to use VersionPress, but finally
failed to utilize it properly. You may like to post this to VersionPress
website and facebook page. That will save people from wasting their time.

However, I wonder how people in the world are doing without any solution
like VersionPress. I feel very uncomfortable without a version control system.
How come people are doing without it?
How do they merge the work of team members where database changes are involved?
I would love to know their workflow.

@borekb
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borekb commented Jun 16, 2020

People struggle 😄.

This is relatively hard with any CMS by the way, as database is a necessity for performance reasons and that just isn't friendly to version control. WordPress is relatively well-positioned to have this problem solved as it has a stable DB structure, is itself open source, etc., but it's still a tough challenge.

@borekb borekb changed the title VersionPress status, 06/2020 VersionPress status Jun 29, 2020
@amjad
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amjad commented Jul 13, 2020

Maybe Automattic can buy you out? You have a great name and a useful plugin.

@borekb
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borekb commented Jul 14, 2020

Not going to happen 😄.

@yusufhm
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yusufhm commented Sep 4, 2020

Hey @borekb is there a list of priority issues that we could pick up and work on if we wanted to keep seeing some progress on this and contribute back? I've just discovered this plugin and I think it's a great idea for tracking changes on Wordpress sites.

@borekb borekb changed the title VersionPress status VersionPress status – 06/2020 Sep 28, 2020
@gjohnhazel
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Wow I just discovered this and would absolutely love a complete product, but I definitely understand not being able to continue production. I hope a company picks this up and, if necessary, monetizes to keep it sustainable! This is exactly the solution I was looking for. Thanks for the hard work you have put into this foundation and proof-of-concept!

@strarsis
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strarsis commented Oct 7, 2020

Other CMS wouldn't support what VersionPress does either? Like JavaScript based ones, or similar ones?
Has the VersionPress dev team switched to another CMS/stack that offers these features out of the box?

@willem-aart
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Other CMS wouldn't support what VersionPress does either? Like JavaScript based ones, or similar ones?
Has the VersionPress dev team switched to another CMS/stack that offers these features out of the box?

There are git backed CMSes such as https://www.netlifycms.org/

@nightillusions
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Other CMS wouldn't support what VersionPress does either? Like JavaScript based ones, or similar ones?
Has the VersionPress dev team switched to another CMS/stack that offers these features out of the box?

Yes, I preffer using Statamic (https://statamic.dev/git-integration) but customer still think WordPress does a great job :(

@davidvc
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davidvc commented Mar 6, 2022

Hi @borekb. If it's not too much trouble, could you summarize the major challenges and big areas of work around getting this production ready? Is it the database integration? Is it Gutenberg? Just trying to get a sense of how crazy I'd be to try and take that effort on (I'm suspecting, pretty crazy :) )

Thanks,

David

@yungifez
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Damn this is a real shame, i want to use wordpress for a project and im afraid one day all the pages would disappear all of a sudden 😆

@robertandrews
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Are there any active forks which have sustained the plugin?

@OnkelTem
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OnkelTem commented Sep 9, 2023

@borekb

However, I wonder how people in the world are doing without any solution like VersionPress.

That's exactly what I'm thinking about. I've got a wp site which I was going to put under version control, until I discovered that they haven't developed anything for all these years since the emergence of WP. That's a big shame, I'm really disappointed and I wonder why people are so naive and incompetent, that they continue to pick WP.

Speaking of systems that have this issue almost perfectly addressed, I can name Drupal 8. For years now they have drush 's export-config/import-config commands that put Drupal config under version control.

I've already learned that wp-cli tool can export and import posts and postmeta into XML files and export/import options. But that doesn't look enough.

As for this project, I was also excited to discover it and I understand how difficult it would be to finish it. Honestly, I reckon it was almost impossible. But it was a good try! I express sincere respect to the developers.

@domeales-paloit
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I am attempting to work out how to do modern development witih git on Wordpress, with environments, and there doesn't seem to be anything that covers it all. VersionPress feels like the closest.

How are others doing git with Wordpress?

@HammyHavoc
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I am attempting to work out how to do modern development witih git on Wordpress, with environments, and there doesn't seem to be anything that covers it all. VersionPress feels like the closest.

How are others doing git with Wordpress?

Did you have any joy with this? I'm looking to sync and edit content via git like https://github.com/mAAdhaTTah/wordpress-github-sync but without suffering the WordPress admin area.

@mtovmassian
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Too bad...The promise was great.
I can't imagine the project being abandoned while half of the websites in the world are powered by WordPress.

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