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Move view site button next to site title #51852

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An alternative at the placement of the external link within the site hub.

Other follow-ups could be to make the site title a link itself, and perhaps reduce the externalLink icon to only show up when hovering the site title itself.

Testing Instructions

  1. Open the Site Editor.
  2. Hover over the site hub area.
  3. See changes.

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CleanShot.2023-06-23.at.09.57.24.mp4

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CleanShot.2023-06-23.at.09.53.55.mp4

@richtabor richtabor added the [Feature] Site Editor Related to the overarching Site Editor (formerly "full site editing") label Jun 23, 2023
@richtabor richtabor requested a review from a team June 23, 2023 13:58
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Good one! Having the open external link next to the site title creates the association to the site (title).

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@richtabor richtabor requested a review from a team June 23, 2023 14:10
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Good one!

Thanks @paaljoachim!

Let's hold on a merge for a bit though; I would like to get additional feedback before pushing it in.

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Yep, that makes sense to me, though if we do this I'd reduce the size of the icon similar to how we do in other places. You can even underline the title to indicate it's a link:

Screenshot 2023-06-26 at 09 49 03

I think the only open question we need to answer is: do we eventually expect site logo + site title to be one big clickable area to go back to the top level admin? If yes, then this would probably not be a good change.

If we expect it to always be only the site logo/icon, then this change is fine. I lean towards this assessment myself.

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In the latest Gutenberg, View Site link is always visible and the position has been adjusted slightly.

Is this PR still valid for the current Gutenberg trunk?

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Can work. Not sure it's better, the big external link icon feels like an icon button that should sit on the right next to other icon buttons.

Separately, I have a feeling lots of sites "in the wild" have very long titles. In fact trunk at the moment doesn't handle this too well:

macrumors site title example

It's possible MacRumors uses the tagline to contextually show the verbose description, but the possibility of very long titles remains.

How this is handled is something good to consider. Would the external link bump up against the loupe and stay put, causing the title to wrap from that point on? Would the text be elided?

If the need is to free up that space for another icon button, another option is this. Resting state:

resting state, no underline, no extlink icon

Hover state:

hover state, underlined and ↗ icon suffix

That would change the icon button to a glyph and feel part of the title instead.

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I'd echo Joen; it seems sensible to do one or the other:

  1. Site title is not a link, icon button remains in current position
  2. Site title becomes a link with ↗ on hover

Iirc, when this was initially implemented the argument against making the title a link was; it might end up feeling like a label for the site icon button, and that the two elements having different behaviours could be unexpected. I don't have a strong feeling about that personally, but wanted to raise it as a valid concern. Separate hover effects for each could help mitigate any confusion there.

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Site title becomes a link with ↗ on hover

#60885 was submitted to display a fallback URL when the site title does not exist. Once this is merged, the site title text is guaranteed to always be visible, so the above approach should be fine.

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We have this in the admin bar today. I think we can do the same in the Site Editor (sans home icon), using the site name as the link and showing the glyph on hover.

CleanShot 2024-04-30 at 13 16 49

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@jasmussen What do you think of this?

CleanShot.2024-04-30.at.13.28.27.mp4

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I spun up #61258 to explore as this effort is quite old.

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What do you think of this?

I think that can work.

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I'll close this in favor of #61258 then.

@richtabor richtabor closed this May 3, 2024
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